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_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
13-03-2012, 15:35
Hi all,

So, in June my wife and I are going for a big N-EU tour. We leave Belgium to go to Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Russia, Baltic States, Belarus, Poland etc...

We will go from Stavanger to Hammerfest in Norway and I have made a preliminary road that we will follow.... BUT all info is more than welcome if you have another idea of where to go for sure and what to do!
We will arrive by boat in Stavanger on June 2 in the evening and start from there on.

We will both be traveling with a Suzuki DRZ400 and the idea is to try and get a few gravel/offroad pistes also... I know that this won't be easy in Norway, but if we can have nice 'normal' routes instead we will be glad!

The idea that we have for now is this one:

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/allerlei/Norway.GPX

Just copy/paste the link in google maps and you can exactly see what I planned for now... ;-)

If anybody can help us with nice/scenic routes or sleeping accomodation, please feel free to answer us and help us out!

Thanks!

Seb & Kim
www.wanderingsouls.be

_arkiv_ruffsen
13-03-2012, 18:12
hello, I've just looked at your link. what the...are you leaving norway and entering into the nothingness og sweden just as it was getting intresting? he he

You have probobly looked hard and long at this route you haveplanned. but I would point out the coastal road from north of trondheim. Fv. 17 Steinkjær - Bodø. That is a good streatch of twist and turns, supplementet with a few ferries. ( remeber you are always first in line when you are on two wheels on ferrys ) might find some about it at kystriksveien.no

bodø have the most powerful tidal current. saltstraumen. and lofoten north of bodø and into the sea are a pice of spectacular nature I do recomend. it's almøost mandatory. ( farry Bodø- Moskenes might be useful to book ahead. due to low capasity in tourist season)

as I see you are looking for som gravel. I belive there are a few stretches in finmark that are legal for driving. there are more qualified peopel to answer this in here. Maybe stig? and forgetting the north cape, it is expensive but a milestone to have reached the geografical top of Europe on leagal roads. Also a few km with good motorbike roads.

It might be worth looking into some twisting roads with tarmac here in norway. after all we have some that are so bad they do justify the suspension on the drz. witch by the way are a genius bike for this kind of travel.

I see i might be way of on the tips but I just had to advertise a littel about som of norways finer places.

Look into Geiranger, trollstigen as well if you do decide to deviate from the original route and think about using norway on your way north.

_arkiv_Bergum
13-03-2012, 18:40
I second that.
And why start I Stavanger?
You are missing a good part of southern of Norway.
You should really go from Kristiansand over Hovden, and then turn left to Stavanger...
1 extremely important tips: all tunnels in Norway has a road around it. Use them!


B4x4.no

_arkiv_KapteinMike
13-03-2012, 19:15
And there is many of old roads to drive on
to many to mention, you should get a waterproof roadmap.
and start as Bergum says.

Kristiansand-Hovden-Stavanger-Haugesund-Bergen-voss-lærdal-Fagernes-Bygdin-(gravel-road)skåbu-espedalen here is Helvete-svatsum-(gravel-road)gålå-Vinstra-ringebu-enden-Folldal-hjerkin-oppdal-trondhjem-Hell trainstation is wort a look and to take a picture thats shows you have been in hell. - værdal-stiklestad-værdal-saltfjellet-bodø-karasjok-alta-hammerfest
i would also recomend drive upp to Nordkapp- then visit sweden, russia, finnland and so on

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 08:50
Oh boy... thank you for the fast and most interesting answers...!

Ok, here goes:


hello, I've just looked at your link. what the...are you leaving norway and entering into the nothingness og sweden just as it was getting intresting? he he

Lol, because I got the route there from a Swedish guy... ;-)


You have probobly looked hard and long at this route you haveplanned. but I would point out the coastal road from north of trondheim. Fv. 17 Steinkjær - Bodø. That is a good streatch of twist and turns, supplementet with a few ferries. ( remeber you are always first in line when you are on two wheels on ferrys ) might find some about it at kystriksveien.no

Ok, you got me there... I am definitely going to look into this one!


as I see you are looking for som gravel. I belive there are a few stretches in finmark that are legal for driving. there are more qualified peopel to answer this in here. Maybe stig?

Yep I got Finland covered... so no need to search a lot of gravel roads in Norway... We would like the coastal routes with the twists and turns much better!!! ;-)


and forgetting the north cape, it is expensive but a milestone to have reached the geografical top of Europe on leagal roads. Also a few km with good motorbike roads.

This one is a tricky one... I planned Hammerfest as it is 'almost' the same, without the expensive tunnel and we could stay there for a night... Is it really mandatory in your opinions to go to Nordkapp instead? This is an open question, as I don't know the answer myself... Yes Norkapp has an "magical" appeal but is it worth the cost?


I see i might be way of on the tips but I just had to advertise a littel about som of norways finer places.

Look into Geiranger, trollstigen as well if you do decide to deviate from the original route and think about using norway on your way north.

After reading your answers and the other ones and the private message from Sig, I already decided to change our original route and consider all your good advise!!!
So I will read everything and look into it and come with a new route in a few days!


And why start I Stavanger?

Because we can get the ferry from Denmark to there for almost no money... 51€ for 2 people and the two bikes...
Plus, we still need to go back through Finland, Russia etc... and we only have 8 weeks. Need to make some decisions at certain points... ;-)


1 extremely important tips: all tunnels in Norway has a road around it. Use them!

GREAT!


...Stavanger-Haugesund-Bergen-voss-lærdal-Fagernes-Bygdin-(gravel-road)skåbu-espedalen here is Helvete-svatsum-(gravel-road)gålå-Vinstra-ringebu-enden-Folldal-hjerkin-oppdal-trondhjem-Hell trainstation is wort a look and to take a picture thats shows you have been in hell. - værdal-stiklestad-værdal-saltfjellet-bodø-karasjok-alta-hammerfest
i would also recomend drive upp to Nordkapp- then visit sweden, russia, finnland and so on

Ok, I will also consider this and look where it matches ruffsen's tips!

Guys, thanks again for all the wonderful tips!
I will make work of changing the route I had planned considering what you all have taken time to write down and I will get back to you in a few days!

Seb

_arkiv_ruffsen
14-03-2012, 10:10
I would like to point out the norwegian fjords and mountains south of trondheim. The route you should look at might be something like this : Stavanger-Geiranger-Trollstigen-Steinkjer ( move out towards the coast Fv 17) Bodø- Moskenes ( Ferry ) then to Nordkapp. Nordkapp might be exspensive and could be skiped. But I would recomend it.

Around Alta there is a road. A gravel road. maybe that could be more of an adventure for you. I hope there is some one here that can be helpfull about this.

I will look at some details as this plan of yours get worked out.

_arkiv_Vidar S
14-03-2012, 11:49
Slettnes beacon (http://maps.google.no/maps?hl=no&gs_nf=1&pq=nordligste+fyr&cp=8&gs_id=w&xhr=t&client=opera&hs=s9P&rls=nb&channel=suggest&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&biw=1916&bih=1004&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=slettnes+fyr&fb=1&gl=no&hq=slettnes+fyr&cid=0,0,17164113191174395879&ei=FFlgT6WxO4Gn4gTr1pW1Dg&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_BI) is almost as fare north as Nordkapp, in a more wild landscape on the route, and it's for free. There is also a small road that can take you a little further north.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 16:46
@ Vidar: thx, I will look at this... It's just not really where we go that matters, just that we go... ;-)
And I've been looking the total cost to go to Nordkapp, just for the picture, it would be a golden one... two bikes + 2 people, twice the tunnel etc... no thanks, I'm not going to pay thàt much for a picture and be able to say 'I've been there'... ;-)

But, in the meanwhile my route has been modified with all your good advices!!!

So have a look again if you want, but I think that this is pretty much going to be it. Ok, I know that there is a strange twist at the end, but I have to have been in Sweden... so it will just be a small stretch of road as you all talked me into Norway... hahahahaha!!!

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/allerlei/Norway.GPX

(to put in google maps)

Tak guys!
(yeeeey i know at least one word!)

_arkiv_ruffsen
14-03-2012, 16:58
Would surprise me if this route you have here gives you a lot more to look at and last but not least more turns. sweden do have straight roads for a motorbiker. finland hmm, I have not seen to much of it, but what I have seen is murder for a biker. longest straight I've driven there are 170km with out changing the angle on the steering wheel at ALL. ( in a car, to be precise)

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 18:01
Would surprise me if this route you have here gives you a lot more to look at and last but not least more turns.

Ruffsen, I don't really understand your comment...
I changed this all because you (and the others) said this was going to be a much more interesting route and now you're saying that there is no difference with the previous one...??? Or do we both mean/understand something else?
ok it's my fault as I don't speak Norwegian... ;-) but still, I don't get you message; so please elaborate!
(or did you just forget to mention that it would NOT surprise you that this route is way better?)

About Sweden and Finland: I have to get back to Belgium one way or another! As we know somebody in St Petersburg we decided to say hi and "just" go visit her... lol! So we go from Northern Norway to Russia and got some help from Finland guys for (gravel) routes and so on. At this time we planned on going down Finland for 3/4 and then cross the border, but maybe we will sooner... still looking into that also.

_arkiv_ruffsen
14-03-2012, 18:23
oh sorry. trying to be funny. the norwegian route you now have are an intresting motorbike road. the former I think you would have been disapointed.

you will get the best of norway this way. good change

and yes. NOT is a good word to remember when needed. sorry.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 18:38
...AHA....!!!

:elg::-P:elg::-P

Ok, now we are talking the same language again... ;-)

No, serious, I thought that it was what you meant but it was written otherwise and I started wondering. But all is clear now and you are most definitely thanked very much!!! I mean this!

Now I still have a question, how long do you guys think we would do for this route? I know it's a tricky question... just bear in mind that the DRZ will do 80km on the road (we are not in a hurry) and all the ferries etc... I was hoping on doing this in 2-3 weeks time.

_arkiv_KapteinMike
14-03-2012, 18:45
atleast 2 weeks

_arkiv_ruffsen
14-03-2012, 19:00
At my pace? hmm. NO not at my pace.

But use the time mostly around Geiranger and Fv17. And if you have the time Lofoten is extrem even after a few days up Fv17. he he I can't let that one go, Northcape I agree to your reasoning. Two weeks goes fast.

are you planning to camp all the way?

(my pace, oslo- istanbul-oslo 10 days 18 countries, 8000km on a KTM 990 adventure)

_arkiv_KapteinMike
14-03-2012, 20:10
It is also possible for drive into sweeden from stiklestad. this is an old Viking battleplace where the old Viking king Olav the holy was killed...

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 20:18
lol!
yep, my pace also, but I have my wife with me and she's not into racingstyle driving :-(
That's why I sold the 1200GSA and bought the DRZ's... so I CAN'T race anymore... Used of doing the same speeds, but recently I like it a bit 'slower', don't take highways anymore and just take longer to do the routes. Did that in Morocco and in fact learned to appreciate it.

Lofoten seems really nice, did some research, but I couldn't really figure out if there is a ferry for the bikes from Bodo to Moskenes and what the price is...
Depending on this, we could still go there (or not).

About sleeping: we have the tents with us, but we will try to find along the way also other sleeping accommodation. We are members of couchsurfing.org and will try to find people who would like to host us for a night here and there. And otherwise a camping or (cheap - is that even possible?) hotel/b&b for a hot shower and cleaning our clothes.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 20:22
It is also possible for drive into sweeden from stiklestad. this is an old Viking battleplace where the old Viking king Olav the holy was killed...

But that's a lot more south than now... so just above Trondheim not?

Since ruffsen and sig talked me into going all the way up through Norway, I did some (google)research and I am more excited now than going through Sweden all the way up... pfff... so many choices!

_arkiv_ruffsen
14-03-2012, 20:59
I'll check the ferry bodø moskenes.



I do agree about your route planning, after all autobahn sucks big time. Just for transit.
I don't go that fast anymore, but tend to drive long hours. after som 10-12 hours driving or more it's two beers and go to sleep. then ride again. once a while I even eat....

ahh, gsa, truly a roadtrain. comfy for those long days. but i see your lucky to get your wife on her own bike like you describe..

Gsa and drz are both long lasting trusting steel horses. Me, I had a bad childhood and grew up racing motocross on KTM's so it's kind of a religion...

_arkiv_KapteinMike
14-03-2012, 21:05
Stiklestad is near verdal 1hour drive from trondhjem.
and main road into sweden from trondhjem is in stjørdal, but there is an old road not far from stiklestad thats going into sweden and drive up to narvik
so you could get a 1-2days in sweden too.

you can also check the NMCU/FEMA calender over bikermeets in norway..
there can be more bikers thats doing just same thing as you and going same direction for a while.

link to some bikermeets in north norway and sweden http://home.online.no/~trike/

lots of readable stuff here
http://nmcu.org/english

_arkiv_sig
14-03-2012, 22:31
When you are in Geiranger, it is a very nice fjord tour to take the ferry from Geiranger to Hellessylt.

When you are in Åndalsnes it is not fare away from Atlanterhavsveien / The Atlantic Road.
http://www.visitmolde.com/no/Atlanterhavsvegen/
This can be spectacular especially with high winds and large waves. Here is a move from the last hurricane. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T4vc1QqiPM

If you still want to drive as your map show, you will run not far from Eikesdalsvatnet.
http://www.eikesdal.no/web/default.asp?menuid=370
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ub9BdBI3Kb0

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
14-03-2012, 22:35
@ KapteinMike: will check the links tomorrow, thx!

So, you asked for pictures about Morocco... here goes!

The two bikes and my wife:

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_0693.jpg

My wife getting bogged over and over again... so I just said "stand on the bike for a picture so I can remember that it is I that always has to work when you get bogged!"

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_0645.jpg

Me stuggling to get out of the sand... actually I just wanted to have a picture like this so I did it on purpose ;-)

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_0718.jpg

Rivercrossing:

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_0504.jpg

Nice and smooth highways al along :mrgreen: :

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/IMG_0161.jpg

I also made a 5 min video about the trip that you can watch HERE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPb5a4QiR10)

Off course, I am planning on doing this (and better) for Norway, and if you are interested I will keep you all updated about the blablabla and the pictures from the 2nd of June on.

_arkiv_ruffsen
14-03-2012, 22:42
hmm nice pictures.
I surly hope you do post from your trip up in the north. It's intresting to see how you like it here and if you two see what we see or hopfully you see more and different things :-)

You might teach us a few things about Norway as well.

All kinds of expeditions and travels are welcom here. On two wheels as well.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
15-03-2012, 09:30
I think we will enjoy it very much in Norway, even if it won't be off road! As far as I've seen the pictures on the internet I am sold! Would just be better if it was 25°C... hahahaha!

I will most definitely keep you updated and post our travel stories/adventures here also.

Again, thanks for all the excellent advices and I will stay in touch!

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
15-03-2012, 10:14
@ Sig: thx for the atlantic route!!! Changed ours a bit to do this, looks amazing! One day I will have to go in december when there's the bad weather, could make some awesome pictures!

_arkiv_Stein
15-03-2012, 14:39
Hi
I've travelled more in continental Europe than in Norway, but still some around here too, and living here does of course give some knowledge. I also think some of the tips from the other guys here deserve even more exclamation marks. I got some of those ready to use in excess. :-)

Firstly, some general stuff:
The point of visiting Norway is of course its nature, not its cities etc. Still there are many nice towns, but their niceness is mostly due to the surroundings. There are also historical places worth seeing if you pass by, like Borgund Stavkirke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgund_Stave_Church). It is probably the best representative of a unique Norwegian architecture and building technique. Very intriguing little church. Lots more culture exists too of course, but you'll find it, scattered around in what you came to experience: Nature.

Maps and aerial photos of Norway are of course availiable at Googlemaps (http://maps.google.com/)etc, but gulesider.no (http://kart.gulesider.no//#lat%3D9620239.41675%26lon%3D1416935.22435%26zoom% 3D4%26layers%3D0B000%26tab%3Daddress) frequently has way better photos. They also have Sea Map view, if you consider boating, and in some areas they've got angled photos, "skråfoto", which gives a much better impression. There are also good maps/aerial photos on Finn.no (http://kart.finn.no/), The Norwegian alternative to Ebay. Statkart.no (http://www.statkart.no/eng/Norwegian_Mapping_Authority/) is the national mapping authority. They have all kinds of maps, but not much for free.

Nasjonaleturistveger.no (http://www.nasjonaleturistveger.no/en) is about National Touristic roads. It has some useful info and maps.
Visitnorway.no (http://www.visitnorway.com/uk/?WT.mc_id=dns_visitnorway_no) is the official Norwegian tourist info page. A bit more glossy than reality I guess, but providing both useful info and impressive pictures of different areas.

Going more into detail, you should look at Nasjonal Vegdatabank (http://svvgw.vegvesen.no/http://svvnvdbappp.vegvesen.no:7778/webinnsyn/anon/index). It's run by the National Roads Authority and gives some useful options. I dont think they have an English version, but you can probably use it still with some guessing and maybe using Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/). Zoom in on the map area you want. Put resolution at max 1:100 000. Under "Karttype", choose "Avansert bruker". In the left hand menu, choose "Vegdekke", put a mark at "Vegdekke_massetype" (gravel roads) or any other, and choose "Vis kart". "Sykkel" means bicycle. A bit cryptic some of it maybe, but worth spending some time with this combined with the other info sources.

The same level of detail and even more info you find at GodTur.no (http://www.godtur.no/godtur/forside.aspx?gui=1&lang=2) (meaning NiceTrip) another official service that seems to have no translation but still is very useful. It's mostly meant for trekking, bicycle, etc, but here you can get topographical maps (http://www.godtur.no/default.aspx?gui=1&lang=2) covering all of Norway in colour and full detail + download and print them if you wish. All for free. Using the menu at the left, you can also get a host of info and features marked out in the maps.

On this forum you can find Norbullit's thread (http://turpaahjul.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3101&highlight=grusvei) about his trip along some of your planned route. With translate you should be able to find info.

Atlanterhavsvegen (http://www.nasjonaleturistveger.no/en/atlanterhavsvegen) (The Atlantic Ocean Road) is a fairly new road entering Kristiansund from the south. You may want to go via Bud, west of Molde. It has been made with the intention of being a nice route, which it acieves, but having driven this far up, you are probably are already a bit spoiled, so in nice weather it will be just nice. But the final part of it goes across a string of bridges between tiny islands next to the open North Atlantic. With heavy winds from anything westerly, which is prevailing, this road is nothing short of spectacular! With bikes, heavy winds may also make it quite challenging...

Further up others have mentioned Kystriksveien.no (http://www.kystriksveien.no/?lng=en)

The fjords are the most famous Norwegian nature feature, and yes they are big stuff and well worth seeing, but in my opinion the nicest area of the whole country is Lofoten. It's a rather big area and most of the nicest spots are only reachable by boat or climbing, but I would seriously spend some time there. As a friend of mine described it to some french cat sailors coming for the Hobie Viking Raid (small cat 6 day race around the whole area) 20 years ago: "Lofoten. Alps with beaches". I'm especially fond of the village Reine, as may be understood by this picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/80424954@N00/235327518).

As you go northwards, you need to be aware that mosquitoes may become a bigger problem than you thought it could possibly be. Some say that the northern mosquitoes have V8 engines and double cannons, :-) but they are actually smaller and quieter than their southern cousins. The trouble is that they are more numerous, to an extent you will not believe until you see it. The worst is actually not the normal mosquitoes but the "knott". They are also mosquitoes but very tiny and make no sound. They even crawl into your hair to devour your skull. Don't think I exaggerate. That's just not possible. Do bring nets and stuff to protect yourselves. Windy cold days, dry places close to the open sea is the best bet to reduce the problem, but no guarantee. Further north and more inland, especially after some warm days, it gets worse. The exact time of the year matters much. Driving inland on the northern "plain" Finnmarksvidda, you will need goggles! Finnmark, by the way, is not Finland but the northernmost region of Norway.

Compared to the rest of Scandinavia, Norwegian nature is way more rough and "angry". The other countries have mostly flat areas and no mountains. In Sweden, the best areas are the arcipelago at the coast near Stockholm, (more than 100 000 islands) the big lakes and fertile farmlands around them inland and the Arcipelago along the coast from Gothenburg to the Norwegian border. This coast and much more was actually Norwegian until 1658. Due to loosing about 70% of the population and almost all grown-ups in the black plague, Norway had been dominated by the Danes for some centuries. They lost one of several wars with Sweden and gave away several big parts of Norway to pay for it. Bastards! :-)

Finland has thousands of lakes, pretty girls and some pretty good liquors. :-D Otherwise I don't know it well. Just been in Oulo up north, which was boring I thought, and around Helsinki, which is a nice city with a beautiful Arcipelago too. The island "state" of Åland is also a paradise, but no point in going on wheels. Have a look at the nice videos from the Arcipelago Raid (http://www.archipelagoraid.com/) from Stockholm to Finland and back in small Formula18 catamarans (I sail those) if interested. It also gives a feeling about what Scandinavian summer can be like in general. I like this one (http://www.archipelagoraid.com/media/flash_video.php?video_id=8)...

I'm certain that you will enjoy this trip and that we will get a lot of info and enjoyment from reading about it here. Looking forward to it!

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
18-03-2012, 13:08
@ ruffsen: did you get an answer for the ferry?


I'll check the ferry bodø moskenes.

@ Stein: wow man! thnax for the post! You are absolutely right, we come for the nature and not the cities... that's even why we will skip a lot of them. I read your post carefully and made a few changes to the route, but I just reinstalled Mac OS X to my Air and guess what.... lost all the stuff inside Garmin Basecamp... so I am trying to reinstall everything and I am glad I uploaded the tracks so now I can download my own tracks again... hahahaha... puff... waste of time but then hey, that's what keeps a man busy, no?

So allow me a few days before you will hear again from me, as I need to redo a big part of the work.
:-(

_arkiv_ruffsen
18-03-2012, 21:32
sorry, haven't heard anything from them. they might be oust fishing or something...I'll try to call them and let you know.

_arkiv_ruffsen
21-03-2012, 09:35
hello once again. strangley enough I did remeber to check that ferry price. it's 274NOK or 36,12 Euro. ( at todays exchange rate) That gives you one way Bodø - Moskenes, one bike including driver.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
25-03-2012, 20:21
thx!

So, here's the final plan for going up north. I'll keep you guys updated on the stories once we're on our way! So stay tuned for info from the first of June one... ;-)

Thanx again for all the help!

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/allerlei/NORWAY.GPX (to put in google maps)

_arkiv_Bergum
25-03-2012, 21:42
You REALY shoud visit Preikestolen, Forsand, Norge

Or, you can take the fast lane.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGLRlUE38P8

_arkiv_ruffsen
26-03-2012, 00:39
I'm looking forward to hearing how you expirience Norway and these other countries we have been comenting on.
I'm very confident the Norwegian coastline has more than a few good expiriences in store for you.

I see you turn east across hardangervidda. do you know at what time and date you are in Geilo/ gol? I just might take a trip up to say hello. And yes Harald I can try to sell them a few Tur På Hjul sticers as well......Or a TPH buff it might come in handy when you cross into the northern parts he he

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
02-04-2012, 20:15
Ooops... I think there was a problem with the mailing system as normally I receive mails when you answer, but nothing this time.... :-(

But luckily I still wanted to check this thread out!
;-)

I am planning on doing a roughly 200km a day, some maybe more, some maybe less, depending on how 'fast' we go we can spend some more time on the nice views (or wasting it waiting for a ferry)... So I guess that we would be there around 4-5 June...

Would be really cool to meet you if that's possible and yes, I would definitely buy a sticker from you an put it on the bikes! If you have patches to sew it's also fine, since we have softbags... ;-)

Let me know, if you want I send you my mobile phone number through PM and I can text you once we're there or so?

In any case I will put a ride report with pics once we're in your beautiful country here in the thread (whenever we find some free internet)!

_arkiv_ruffsen
02-04-2012, 21:31
Not to serious that sticker comment. Just teasing Harald, the forum owner, a littel with that one actually.
I guess it will be possibel to meet up and have a cup of coffe at least then.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
03-04-2012, 19:15
yeah, but still... if you have some (and they are not tooooooooo ugly hahahaha) we would certainly take one (or two).

_arkiv_ruffsen
03-04-2012, 19:47
he he..I think Mr Hansen have a few different sizes for you. I will ask him if he let me take a coupel of them with me up to Gol or Geilo in June.
Or wht do you say Mr. Hansen?

Harald Hansen
04-04-2012, 07:38
Certainly. Just drop by one day!

_arkiv_ruffsen
04-04-2012, 22:38
By the way I was to Geilo today. And what a nice place to look at big suv's. ( if you're intrested) As you might know it's easter, and Geilo is a hot spot for the rich and wannebe famouse. At least at this time of year, with the right after ski and exspensive enough cabins. So, todays lesson for me is that shiny wheels with a really thin black edge desperatly trying to imitate a tyre is really great on a suv. I looks like a 4by4 but far from it. Cayenne by the dusins, Q8, discos an RRs as far as you could see. Spiced with som xc90's and a few X5 I think belonged to the unfortunate ones( those who placed their trust, and money in Greece perhaps?)

It's really impressing. Today, in mid easter it's the most expspensive and popular place. Really where you want to been seen and spend your money. And by June, when you arrive here a hotel room inkluding breakfast is about 395,- a person. Today thats about one liter of petrol or the price of a matchbook up there...makes me think: whats real..............

ps: and for that tyre comment: when the winter gives way for spring many Norwegian roads are a handfull even for you'r DRZ's....it's like riding a mix of a black mean snake and a mad rollecoaster, I actually managed to get a few bumps in my head after hitting the celing of my car up there today. ( ok I do drive as I allways do, effectivly)...........congratulations to the gnoms who mounted low profile tyres on their cars.

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
12-04-2012, 22:51
LOL!!!

Would have been cool to arrive there all dirty on two old yellow monsters... just to see the contrast!
With those prices I think I will only see my tent and sleeping bag during the whole trip!

How far is it for you btw to go there? Just to know how and where we can meet up once we "landed" in Norway... 8-)

okay, by now everything takes really good forms, so the route is already plotted almost until Poland... you can have a look HERE (http://www.wanderingsouls.be/?cat=15)

Sunday I will first go to Sri Lanka for two weeks (by plane) and then a few days to Qatar, so the motorcycle story will be put on hold for three weeks and then I will finish everything up when I get back (or in the plane...)

_arkiv_ruffsen
13-04-2012, 00:42
I do see you get around :-)

good for you he he

I need about 2 hours to geilo. and depending on mood and work I might meet you some other place. we can see closer to June...It's more on a day to day planning here now a days you see....

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
13-04-2012, 07:29
okay, we see by then!

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
24-05-2012, 12:39
just to let you now guys that I'm not dead and that the departure time is really soon, next week!
I just had to order two new tubes for the tyres, as I changed all the tires with new ones to be shure that they would hold all the journey, but punctured twice the inner tube on Kim's bike when changing, so now I ordered new ones in a rush to try to fix this, otherwise we can't even leave home... ;-)

Say, how do we meet?
My phone number is +32 4 78 78 30 31 so you can text me to make RV at a place somewhere. I also installed the tomtom nav on my iphone, so should be no problem to find an address anywhere! (I hope...)

_arkiv_ruffsen
24-05-2012, 12:54
ah, I never let my fait in you fade...he he

not to worry, just get rolling and everything sorts it self..

my number are
+47 97 96 47 09..

I recon we could meet around geilo. I need a few hours notice only. On the 6th I'm seriously busy with my daughters first test day at school..otherwise nothing I can move around alittel on the calendar...

I recon youll be on geilo the 4. so keeping teh 4 and 5 open :-)

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
24-05-2012, 13:11
Allright, great!
I'll send you an sms then, but indeed I think we would be around the 4th in de afternoon/evening at latest in Geilo.
You prefer to meet during the day or in the evening?
Just to know for accomodation purposes... ;-)

_arkiv_ruffsen
24-05-2012, 13:29
he he, no worries. I'll mange any how. is there nice weather it might be good to share a few beers by the river and sleep outside for all I care ;-) or drive home, it's only a a coupel of hours ;-)

Harald Hansen
24-05-2012, 15:29
If the weather holds you will have an excellent trip! Good luck!

_arkiv_ruffsen
01-06-2012, 08:51
FIrst of all, I do belive it will clear but any how....

This is not africka, wich is no surprise I know. It's not that exclusive, but this morning on the first of June we have a littel excotic climate to offer you. At least to worry you a littel, please don't panic :-) This is what the local weather repport said on the radio concerning Geilo this morning : a halvf degreee celsius and twelve centimeters of snow today.

Just a littel remider to me, I don't know how much I've fokused on climate her. But you could do with a set of wool underweare :-)


and once more, I don't belive the snow will give you any troubel, it will be gone in a short time. but remeber the tarmac temp is low. no racing conditions at first light and you need a few more miles than you're used to to get to working tire temp.....

Harald Hansen
04-06-2012, 09:30
Ruffsen dropped by this morning and picked up some merchandise for you. Even if the weather is not all that great it will be an experience! :mrgreen:

_arkiv_ruffsen
05-06-2012, 01:27
Great meeting you today. I hope the weather treats you better in the days to come.
And my sencere appoligies for not making a better point out of the cool mountains on an earlyer point in your planning.

Looking forward to hearing from your further expirience on this vacation going on expedition "north pole" ;-)

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
06-06-2012, 00:50
Lol guys!

Well, we're in Trondheim right now, so that's already that!

On the way to Geilo:

http://www.wanderingsouls.be/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/IMG_1802.jpg

We did NOT expect this, and I didn't read your last posts until now... !
Shit happens but I was glad we did meet, as it turned kim around and now we are going all the way up as planned (yipie!)
But I have to admit that it changed into an expedition... today we had: Fog, snow, rain, hail and some sun in between... damn, your weather is REALLY f*cked up! ;-)

I'm still trying to put the first movie together, hope to have some rest day this week to do this so it will give a better perspective of things!

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
06-06-2012, 10:07
Copy/paste from our blog:

Ok, so we arrived in Aalborg, Denmark. Covered 1000km today which was really, really boring and uneventfull. Tomorrow morning we’ll be on the road again at 0630 as we have the ship to take from Hirtshals (DK) to Stavanger (N) and it’s a 12hour seatrip… So it will be boring (again) but then we’ll finally start our trip from Stavanger on Sunday up north… until the snow and the ice and the bears and… oh no, that’s just me imaginating stuff because it was a boring day!

The first time we woke up at Anja’s place was around 7 o’clock, but we thought that was too early so we went to sleep again. The second time it was half past 10…. AAGGHH!!! Starting the day early, yeah right! Anja was our nice couch surfing host in Stavanger.

By the time we left, it was around half past 11 and we had to make up for our time because we planned on driving at least 200 km’s a day.

The drive started out nice. It was only 15°C but there was a strong and cold northern wind, which made it feel a lot colder. It started out sunny, but not long after we started, the clouds came in and the temperature dropped. Towards the evening, we were looking for a free camping spot, but there wasn’t any to our liking, so we decided to drive a little further… By that time unfortunately, we were in the mountains….and, yes, you’ve guessed it…it was COLD there! It turned out to be -5°C and there was meters high snow everywhere!!!!

“oh yes dear, let’s take a summer vacation…!”

Ok, now that we are in Norway, I can say without a doubt that you have never experienced a tunnel until you’ve driven through one in Norway…! “Why”, you say, “is a tunnel in Norway so special then…?”

I’ve thought long and hard about that question and I can only answer it with another question: “how do you imagine that the tunnel would be that leads towards the ‘batcave’….?”

I am not kidding! It looks like they just dug a hole in the mountain just big enough so that two trucks would never in a million years be able to pass each other without taking down half the mountain and to put the icing on the cake, they then put in lightning that resembles candlelight…!!!!

Whoopy, another tunnel that is 7 km’s long….. AAAGGHH!

When we were in Geilo we met Ruffsen, a Norwegian guy from Turpaahjul.com; a Norwegian forum for 4WD travelling around the world. The guys here helped me a lot for the preparations for our trip (let’s call it our expedition from now on) to the North Cape. We had actually decided to almost turn around in search for better weather, as we were not really feeling comfortable in our summergear in these temperatures but then Ruffsen took us to a shop to buy some underpants and skigloves…. yep, we put our two pairs of summergloves away to ride now with these big winerskigloves…

But, the only thing that we did not expect or anticipate was the climate at this time… we really had everything in one day yesterday: snow, fog, rain, hail and sun… If you see signs of “summer ski centers” along the way, then you know enough, no? We’re having a day’s rest in Trondheim now as I need to work on the bikes a bit as they have suffered the last few days and to update this blog. We also passed some military installations and exercise things, asked if it was ok to take a picture, the guy needed to ask permission and after a few minutes we were granted the ok from some high ranked officer that we could take a picture!

Also I hope to finish the first roadmovie today and be able to upload it here, so stay tuned!

Norway is a really tremendously beautifully country but the weather is sh*t and everything is beyond expensive!!!

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
06-06-2012, 12:37
ROADMOVIE PART 1 (http://youtu.be/9Zp0CfuCKrU)

_arkiv_Puch G
06-06-2012, 20:28
Norway is a really tremendously beautifully country but the weather is sh*t and everything is beyond expensive!!!

You have understood the essence of the country after record short time :-)

drive safely and good luck,
Andi
(foreigner in Norway since 2006 and still missing summer)

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
06-06-2012, 20:34
LOL!

You know, in some countries they don't have summer and winter, just rainseason and dry season.

They should also change it in Norway: Winter and the non-snowing days (ok, let's be positive: weeks)

Hahahahahahaha!!!!

8-)

No, honestly, after a small mental breakdown earlier this week we're fine now! although almost broke so we're driving faster and longer than planned to reduce costs a bit. :-(

_arkiv_Bergum
06-06-2012, 21:16
Hey, told you. You should have started in kristiansand and taken the good road.. :-)

B4x4.no

_arkiv_qcnr
07-06-2012, 10:12
Which one is that? http://www.orrp.info/smf/Smileys/orrp/tble.gif

_arkiv_Bergum
07-06-2012, 15:44
That will be kristiansand to Bykle, over the hill to the bottom of the fjord that leads to Stavanger..
Then you coud have seen prekestolen, and the pulpit rock... And walked to it too... :-)

B4x4.no

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
12-06-2012, 22:22
Yeah, but then in the end we had a beautifull roadtrip all the way, it's just the weather that was a bit sh#t as we did not expect that... ;-)

and don't take the comments in the movies too seriously... we just put them in to remind us about a few stories or things that happened... the cleaning of the chain is because I have a chainproblem at this stage and it was just "fun" that the stupid machine just wanted more money before it would work... I paid 30Kr in the end for a bit of water under presure... ;-)

PART 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TaBRi0T1xU) of our trip is online...

@ Ruffsen, could you be so kind to mail me the picture that was taken with the 3 of us together? Then I will paste it in the next movie... not really right in time, but at least you will be in it... ;-)

seb(dot)leeson(at)gmail(dot)com

Thx!

Harald Hansen
13-06-2012, 11:28
Good to know that you're still alive. And nice Buff in the movie... :D

_arkiv_Oo-SEB-oO
15-06-2012, 19:10
Of course! ;-)

The movie about Norway is finished... so you wanted to know how we experienced Norway? THIS IS IT... (http://youtu.be/ftkKFAtYNCM) ;-)